Beyond “both, and…”

“It’s not either/or, its both, and…”
— a lot of people

There’s a lot of contestation at the moment.

When we hear people talk about this, a lot of the time we hear people going for the safety of the middle ground, the safety of compromise, of mutual agreement. We hear people going for “both, and…”

But the and, rarely comes.

The meaningful dialogue rarely ensues.

In many ways, “both, and…” has become a full-stop on meaningful discussion, and, dare I say, its time to change that.

Join me as we chart our path from “either/or”, to “beyond both, and…” that takes in my latest research and rich experiences from across organisations.

Let’s travel in the direction of the questions we ask.

Navigating beyond both, and…


This lecture series takes participants from “either/or” to “beyond both, and…” in a guided but exploratory way that allows them to consider their own context when understanding wicked problems. Perfect for leadership courses and research methodology.

Multimedia Lecture Series


30 to 60 minute interactive key note presentation that immerses delegates within wicked problems, and provides them with the language and lenses to lead with confidence and capability.

Keynote presentation


A series of guided case studies, with multimedia cases, reflection questions, and calls to action. Perfect for teams of leaders developing their capabilities.

Guided Case Studies


  • “This is a real game changer for how we think about complexity. There's nothing that has opened my eyes more than this in the last few years"

    -- University Academic

  • “Michael has absolutely hit upon a big issue in our discussions. There's so much to learn from moving beyond here, and the topographic metaphor is really powerful”

    -- Researcher

  • “These language and lenses are exactly what we need for advancing our understanding of the complex world our kids are quickly running into"

    -- Principal